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Liam Miller in action for the Republic of Ireland Dan Sheridan/INPHO

GAA's Central Council to convene special meeting over Liam Miller tribute match

It follows a meeting between the game’s organisers and GAA officials earlier this week.

THE GAA’s CENTRAL Council will convene a special meeting this weekend to discuss the use of Páirc Uí Chaoimh for the Liam Miller tribute match.

Earlier this week, the association said it would consider proposals put forward by the organisers of the match, following a meeting between both parties.

The match has been the subject of ongoing controversy, after the Cork County Board refused to let its 45,000-seater stadium be used for the match because of the GAA’s rule 5.1, prohibiting the use of its grounds for foreign sports.

Following political and public pressure in recent days, a GAA spokesman confirmed to TheJournal.ie that another meeting of Central Council will take place on Saturday.

Central Council acts as the governing body of the association between its annual Congress, endorsing proposals that do not need to be approved by Congress each February.

However, it remains unclear what decision will be made by Central Council this weekend, as exemptions to rule 5.1 can only be granted at Congress, although there could be a way around this.

A general view of Pairc Ui Chaoimh stadium A general view of Pairc Ui Chaoimh stadium Oisin Keniry / INPHO Oisin Keniry / INPHO / INPHO

The game is being held to raise funds for charity and the family of former Republic of Ireland international Miller, who passed away earlier this year aged just 36.

On Monday, one of the game’s organisers Michael O’Flynn said that Miller’s family did not want “any controversy” over the fixture, which sold out within minutes of going on sale last week.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 8:56 AM

    Meeting after meeting…..just do the right thing and let them use the stadium….

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:14 AM

    @Henry Waddle: The game will be over before they decide

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:17 AM

    @Dermot Lane: most important thing is to get an apology from the soccer riff raff like damian duff

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:32 AM

    @Billy the great: Idiot.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:36 AM

    @Billy the great: I agree with you entirely , they did far too much mouthing, and of course, the Media hijacked it and tried to have a go at the GAA..

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:38 AM

    @Billy the great: no. the most important thing is that the game is played in the most financially rewarding stadium for Liam Millers family.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:40 AM

    @Eugene Comaskey: This is about raising money for a mans family.If you are offended by the media that is your problem, but maybe stop politicising something that is, at is core, a good cause!!!!!

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:43 AM

    @Billy the great: you were billy the king a few weeks ago

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:00 AM

    @Henry Waddle: True but Duff’s comment were ill advised and did not help anybody at all. I’m certain the result will be that the game is played in Pairc ui Caoimh but the bitching and name calling over this has been very sad to see.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:00 AM

    @Sean Conway: Yes sean that is exactly how i would describe him

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:01 AM

    @Henry Waddle: Are you suggesting they are short a few bob? surely the millionaires mouthing off could have helped them out?

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:18 AM

    @Cian Nolan: Not unlike the bitching and name calling that goes on in this comments section all the time.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:38 AM

    @Billy the great: who says they haven’t?????? Do they need to publicise it if they have? Your bitterness is palpable

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:05 AM

    @Henry Waddle: You’re right Henry have it in Croker get 82k into the place I can’t think of a family that needs it more. It’s must have been tough playing for Man utd, wages are pretty poor its hard getting by on 50k a week.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:09 AM

    @John the baptism: you don’t think Marymount could use the money?

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:27 AM

    @John the baptism: Bitter much.?? Not his fault he earned that money while he was alive., If you were a pro athlete would you turn it down? are you the minority who would accept a nominal fee purely because you dont believe you should be paid thousands for playing sport? Is your moral compass that askew? Your bitterness is laughable…. I hope when you die your family don’t need any support, I hope your partner doesnt struggle, I hope you live a long life so your kids dont bury you in your mid 30′s….I hope you see your kids grow up……. then again you are either trolling or just a bitter person who needs to see that negative in everything because you a jealous of a situation that might promote goodwill towards another human being and their family…… if you are trolling, you must have wanted a reaction….there’s your reaction

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:54 AM

    @Henry Waddle: Yeah lets put another million in their back pocket, I can think of a dozen more deserving causes, not a millionaires footballers family. You have a good think about, we have lost family members to soon on modest wages and they’ve done their best and got on with it. All you guys on here about it’s a good cause. Makes me sick give help where it’s needed.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:56 AM

    @Billy the great: The timing of Duff’s comments wasn’t great but something needed to be said. I’m a GAA man, cant wait to go to Croke Park this weekend but, like most GAA men, I’ve been disgusted by the way the Miller family have been treated. Get off the stage Billy, you’re embarrassing yourself almost as much as the GAA has in the past week. Your constant references to “soccer crowd” and “riff raff” are pitiful. Anyone involved in sport in this country is to be admired. Let the game go ahead.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 12:01 PM

    @John the baptism: John, you’re bitterness and jealousy will consume you…… and I hope your family are around long enough to see that happen too

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    Jul 27th 2018, 12:49 PM

    @Henry Waddle: A fool and his money are easily parted and you’re a fool

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    Jul 27th 2018, 1:58 PM

    @Henry Waddle: Of course, the game should go ahead at Páirc Uí Chaoimh but i notice a lot of posters familiar from rugby articles having a go at the GAA for been backward. I think they should look closer to home as the IRFU ( I’m Rich F.. U) and the majority of their private schools network still in 2018 deny their students the opportunity to play GAA or Soccer.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 2:35 PM

    @John the baptism: your lack of response each of my original points and you’re attempt at petty insults speak volumes…..so jealous and bitter….as I said, I hope your family dont have to bury you before you bury them….and its easier to fool someone than convince them they have been fooled.. you poor bitter soul.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 8:57 AM

    They should be voting to get rid of the 5.1 rule. It is something that belongs in the past. Not the society we live in today. Especially after they accepted everybody’s tax money to invest in the facilities.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:50 AM

    @Shayno O’Donnchadha: is this conversation still a thing…

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:54 AM

    @Shayno O’Donnchadha: it’s all very old Catholic Church, you can’t marry a Prod unless they ‘convert’, you can’t attend a Prod service, all children have to be raised Catholic, only Catholics can get to heaven.
    All abandoned.
    GAA the last bastion of dogma.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 1:54 PM

    @Mick Barnier: what year do you live in? My brother is married to a ‘prod’. She’s still a prod – never converted. They got married in the prod church, with the Catholic priest there too. Their first child was christened a prod. Their second was christened a Catholic. Things have moved on a bit from whatever era you’re stuck in, you know…..

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    Jul 28th 2018, 5:31 AM

    @Jumperoo: i don’t think he understoood his point

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    Jul 27th 2018, 8:56 AM

    Do the right thing and lets all move on.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 8:57 AM

    They must have some bill for red tape up in that place

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:20 AM

    @Hugh Jass: Congradulations to the womens hockey team for making it through to the last 8 of the world cup.
    the GAA is a backward sport going nowhere.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:29 AM

    @Sean Conway: What has the women’s hockey team got to do with my comment or this article?

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:42 AM

    @Sean Conway: You’re right Sean it’s a backward organisation with it’s state of art 45k stadium that others can only dream of.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:53 AM

    @Hugh Jass: It’s a game similar to hurling. hurling is subsidized by the government. with nothing to show for it internationally for the people of ireland to support. and now they insult us.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:59 AM

    @Sean Conway: Your a fool be quiet.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 1:14 PM

    @Sean Conway: They have their county team to support. If you think field hockey is similar to hurling I don’t really know what to say to you.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:25 AM

    The GAA should let them play. It is a good cause. And it sounds like it’ll be a great event. However there’s a right and a wrong way of doing things. The organisers should’ve had a plan B already arranged should the interest in attending exceeded their expectations instead of landing it at the doorstep of the GAA automatically expecting them to be the solution. I think a lot of criticism has come the way of the GAA yet the organisers ultimately responsible for the event seem to have been overlooked.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:28 AM

    @Shane Cusack: The organizers owe the GAA one massive apology

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:42 AM

    @Billy the great: your not one to repeat yourself are you great billy

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:03 AM

    Looks like the GAA will be dragged “kicking and screaming” to do the right thing.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:29 AM

    @Cheeky Charlie: play the game in the parc and then ask the GAA to sort out the wages for the league of Ireland teams that aren’t getting paid, because Soccer couldn’t organise a piss up in a Brewery without making a balls of it.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:12 AM

    @Martin McKenna: in fairness the GAA should pay some irish athletes something at some point given how much they get from them for nothing

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:25 AM

    @David Clements: they already are. There’s more money going to county footballers than there is any LOI player plus there isn’t a county or senior club manager in the country who isn’t being paid. GAA is no more amateur than rugby or soccer.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:47 AM

    @Martin McKenna: It’s a game organised to raise funds for Liam Miller’s widow and her family. It has nothing to do with the LOI (which I agree is a shambles). Maybe focus on Liam and not your own begrudgery

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    Jul 27th 2018, 12:12 PM

    @Jim Demps: yes there is.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:11 AM

    Could have had this meeting a week ago ffs

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:18 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: but the gaa dont answer to soccer riff raff thankfully

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:43 AM

    @Billy the great: I’ll just give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re not referring to the man for whom the game is being played.

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    Jul 28th 2018, 8:44 AM

    @Billy the great: moron

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:26 AM

    Further poor journalism here from the 42. Rule 5.1 doesn’t ban “foreign sports”. It says that other than Croke Park GAA owned grounds cannot be used for “sports in conflict with Gaelic games”. Some might argue what in conflict means but accuracy in reporting is essential to properly inform the debate.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:19 AM

    an unconditional apology from the riff raff who insulted the gaa would be a good start

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:33 AM

    @Billy the great: nobody cares what you think fool

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:49 AM

    @Billy the great: what club are you a member of Billy? Or are you just a troll?

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:02 AM

    @Al coholic: You obviously do or you wouldnt have commented

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:17 AM

    @Jim Demps: He is a troll. Spends his time trying to get a reaction from people.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:01 AM

    Sky subscribers in Ireland should be meeting to cancel their subscription if this isn’t allowed to go ahead

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:25 AM

    @Johnny Mason: Why?

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    Jul 27th 2018, 1:32 PM

    @Lad: don’t they have a TV rights deal with the Gaa who would want to associate with the Gaa after this disgrace

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    Jul 27th 2018, 6:27 PM

    @Johnny Mason:
    What would all the so called soccer supporters do then , no premiership .
    The GAA can survive without sky can the Irish soccer fan .

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:33 AM

    This is like pulling teeth, reminds me of the Garth Brooks debacle. All my family are big GAA followers . Just say “Yes to the Match” . Think outside the box.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:12 AM

    Can everyone go to twitter and facebook please and post the hashtag #Letthemplay

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:15 AM

    Come on GAA do the right thing and let the people worship at the table of the great Manchester United… Sorry, what am I saying, let them help the Millers, yes that’s it, let them help the Millers.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:19 AM

    @Kevin McMahon: Very cynical. I think the vast majority just want to see the game played to raise money for a good cause.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:35 AM

    @Kevin McMahon: you don’t think it’s a good cause?

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:42 AM

    I agree it should be opened and I think the GAA will do the right thing here. But I have a few questions / observations:
    - why didn’t the organizers of the tribute game go to GAA top brass in Croke Park months ago and pitch the idea? As they have sold tickets for the Cork City venue I’m only assuming this more evolved than planned;
    - will the GAA have to open all their grounds for all special circumstances from now on. If the answer is yes then they need a protocol / policy.
    - this is not a legal charity, it is a private fundraiser. Therefore the GAA will have to protect itself for any future litigation on proposed ‘private fundraisers’.

    Anyway, hope it goes ahead. FYI my local GAA club and Soccer club joint own their field for over 40 years…sharing dressing rooms, etc.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:56 AM

    @lousybush: In regards to your first question…They did and told that it could not happen but the story got out and this groundswell happened

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:22 AM

    To much pressure.. They will fold..
    Money talks and grants threat will see em fold..

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:31 AM

    @Willy Malone: league of ireland folding cannot pay wages.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:26 AM

    Why didn’t they look to play the match in the aviva. So it’s in Dublin , but it holds a whole lot more than than anywhere in cork. It would easily sell out and thus make a whole lot more money for a good cause, with no controversy???

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:34 AM

    @Brian Horton: because they wanted the tribute game for a cork man to be held in cork. Seems reasonable enough.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:39 AM

    @Jim Demps: he did play for IRELAND too

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:41 AM

    @Brian Horton: if this this was in Scotland and an offer to use Hamden Park instead of Ross County’s stadium it would be taken straight away.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:46 AM

    @Jim Demps: surely making as much money for the family is more important, and no agro about venues either.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:11 AM

    @Brian Horton: maybe they won’t fill the aviva. They probably won’t fill Páirc Uí Chaoimh but they’ll certainly exceed the 7000 limit at turners cross

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:21 AM

    @Jim Demps: id love to go and bring my son, not really to see the “legends” but in memory of a good Irish footballer and a good cause. However traveling to cork is not an option. If the game was played in the Aviva, there is no doubt it would sell out.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:27 AM

    @Brian Horton: I’d imagine it’s for that precise reason that the aviva hasn’t been considered. By holding it in Dublin would mean a lot of family and friends from cork couldn’t go to Dublin.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 1:18 PM

    @Brian Horton: true.
    Now imagine how Cork people, and people everywhere outside Dublin feel about every rugby and football international. If they are interested in the match, they can make the ‘effort’ to go to Cork. They won’t suffer nosebleeds.
    Cork venue for a former Cork City player and nativ e of Cork. Dublin is just relevant to this fundraiser.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 1:19 PM

    @Liam MacSuibhne: *irrelevant, should have said

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:43 AM

    This is not about sports ideology, but a human story of a tragic waste of a young man’s life to a terrible disease, a community that wants to show their empathy for one of their own, and a chance for ordinary people to do something good and uplifting for us all. Do the right thing before all the goodness is sucked out of this thing.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:09 AM

    GAA and the Catholic Church two controlling institutions in Ireland that need to change or go .

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:45 AM

    @Deirdre Gosson: money and power is all they are concerned about.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:35 AM

    We can cry and moan all we want about doing the right thing, but there’s a rule in place. Everybody knows about this rule, some people think it has no place in modern society, but up until now everyone has accepted that it’s a rule. If Cork City and Celtic were to end up playing each other in the Europa League, nobody would be lambasting the GAA because the game couldn’t be played in Pairc Ui Caoimh, they’d just accept that it wouldn’t happen, and move on. So its disingenuous to blame all this on the GAA, the organisers need to carry their share of the blame. This was always going to be a game that would sell out anywhere, it would have sold out Croker if it was put on there. This should have been organised ages ago.

    Having said that, hopefully the right decision is made.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:28 AM

    @Alan Roddy: the rule is being broken every day of the week in clubs up and down the country who rent pitches and Astro turfs to rugby and soccer clubs.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 11:30 AM

    @Alan Roddy: who far back is ages ago? Miller only passed away in Feb. there’s been a huge amount of organizing in 4 months.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 2:12 PM

    @Alan Roddy: when Cork City FC do inevitably land a big EU tie that requires a much larger stadium than Turners Cross, the home leg will go to PuC. If not the EU ruling & Dept of DTTAS surveillance of the decision that will be privately challenged in the Court of Luxembourg *** Let’s make no mistake about that **** The decision document guarantees multi functional use to other field sports and community & commercial organizations (e.g. Cork City FC …owned in the form of the FORAS trust which has about a thousand members in the Cork community) …. That’s the way it is now folks, Frank shouldn’t have taken the filthy lucre in the first place.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 2:31 PM

    @Jim Demps: these are Astro pitches and training pitches, that happen to be on the grounds of a GAA pitch, not GAA pitches. GAA matches don’t take place on these pitches, they are there for training and general community use. I play soccer on these Astro pitches, that just happen to be in the same grounds as a GAA pitch. I played soccer on a soccer pitch that was right next to a GAA pitch. When the soccer pitch was waterlogged, we would go elsewhere because everyone knows the rule about non-GAA sports on a GAA pitch. Growing up we would get run if we dared play soccer on a GAA pitch.

    I don’t agree with the rule, I’m against it, I absolutely think it should be played at PuC. My problem is with people coming across shocked and offended as if this is something new. It’s nothing new

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    Jul 27th 2018, 2:52 PM

    @Alan Roddy: just over a week ago st Vincent’s in cork allowed grattan United to use their pitch because the soccer pitch had been vandalized. This was just before the Liam miller GAA statement. It was a nice gesture by Vincent’s and really in the community spirit that the GAA are trying to put out there.
    Surely that was against the rules wasn’t it?
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/gaa-club-comes-to-assistance-of-soccer-club-after-pitch-vandalised-472866.html

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    Jul 27th 2018, 2:53 PM

    @Alan Roddy: also if you read the rule in question it specifically says grounds. Not just match pitches.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 3:00 PM

    @Jim Demps: Grounds controlled by Association units shall not be used or permitted to be used, for horse racing, greyhound racing, or for field games other than those sanctioned by Central Council.

    That’s the rule. I don’t see any attachment that says it’s ok to hold soccer matches on astroturfs and training pitches.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 12:58 PM

    I feel The GAA are unfairly getting an awful time over this game. This soccer match is nothing to do with the GAA. Also while I would sympathize with the Liam Miller family he would have earned several million euro over his playing career so I cannot see how they need the extra funds. Marymount are supposed to get some funds as well but I haven’t seen what percentage.
    This game is one that the GAA have nothing to do with and want nothing to do with. All stadiums and sports get public funding but this doesn’t mean that the GAA have to open to everyone.
    How would anyone feel if their neighbours who they don’t have anything to with wanted to hold an event in their house simply because it was the biggest house in the area!!!

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    Jul 27th 2018, 1:24 PM

    @Pat Kennedy: to carry on with your analogy, if my neighbor who I didn’t really know, had a son who died from cancer, asked me to use my house to host a fundraiser for his family and for a cancer charity because my house was bigger and would make more money for said causes I could
    A – say yes and show that I’m a nice guy who wants to help my neighbor with the added benefit of helping a charity
    Or
    B – say no way. I don’t really know you and I suspect you’ve already got enough money anyway. Also it’s my house and my wife has a rule against big parties and if only you had gotten your act together down through the years you could have had a big house too.

    I know which one I’d go with

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    Jul 27th 2018, 2:35 PM

    @Jim Demps: exactly, but there wouldn’t

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    Jul 27th 2018, 2:39 PM

    @Jim Demps: exactly, cos you’re a nice guy. But there would be no obligation on you to allow it, it’s your house. And if your wife was a battleaxe who didn’t want the neighbours and people she wouldn’t normally associate with trampling mud over the carpets, she could veto it. And to take the analogy further, if the manager of the bank that gave you a few bob to build the house, insisted that you allow it, you STILL would be under no obligation.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 2:58 PM

    @Alan Roddy: I don’t think the GAA should have to hold the match because they got a grant. I’ve never ever used that point.
    I think they should hold the match because it’s for charity and it’s the decent community spirited thing to do. To hide behind a rule book that they flagrantly disregard when they suit them is despicable.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 12:14 PM

    Dinosaurs the lot of them GAA robbers. Too much control. Public money used to build the stadium.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 12:13 PM

    As a proud supporter of Cork GAA I am mortified that the Cork Country Board have caused such controversy over a tribute match . They are a total disgrace and no matter what the outcome now they have tainted the purpose of this tribute to a fellow sportsman .
    Years ago my father told me that ‘ except for love of the game no one would support the GAA ‘ . He was right . They are toxic and their officials need to come out of the dark ages . Let me take this time to remind the Cork County Board that they do not own the Park ! It belongs to the people of Cork and their current stance does NOT represent the feelings of those people . On my own behalf I would like to apologize to the Miller family for the negative attitude they have and offer my condolences on their great loss.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:45 AM

    The GAA are farcical at this stage. A total embarrassment. Community driven my 4#$!…!!!

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:37 AM

    “We have reached a decision and we are happy for you to use our stadium provided you use our hospitality for the 45,000 guests.. Hamburger €90, Hotdog €75, Pint of beer €35, Toilet Use Number 1 €20, Toilet Use Number 2 €50..

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:41 AM

    WTF? This is not an attempt to promote a barracks game at the expense of blood-and-soil sports. It is one-off fund-raising charity event. There is no need for the holding of special meetings and the quoting of rule books. The event is entirely justified from a moral perspective and does not infringe any constitution. Get your prehistoric bigoted asses in gear GAA management and stop embarrassing yourselves and your members

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:40 AM

    Too late the damage is done !!

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:43 AM

    This is about a mans family….A man who died of cancer….yet some of you are more concerned with the “he said, she said” of the media or soccer players….absolute gobsh**es…..

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:03 AM

    @Henry Waddle: the soccer riff raff need to know their place

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:39 AM

    @Billy the great: ah so you’re a troll….

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:46 AM

    It’s at a snails pace but at least it’s progress. Hopefully the special congress will do the right thing and let the game be played without any silly restrictions.
    Soccer and rugby are played every week on all weather pitches in clubs. Stop being hypocrites and just let a good thing happen

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    Jul 27th 2018, 1:14 PM

    I’m GAA to the core but this has been a joke and makes the organisation look ridiculous. Too little too late.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 9:50 AM

    Has this not been decided yet. ffs. Make a decision either way..

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:30 AM

    I can’t believe this is still not settled. It’s shameful.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 10:39 AM

    What’s going on in the GAA and their rules is heartless.
    I believe what “what goes around comes around” – so maybe one day one of the deciding committee will face what this young family are facing.
    Shame on the GAA.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 3:59 PM

    Muddy the water? I am in favor of the game been held at GAA ground. I am talking about the hypocrisy of many posters here and the media in general. Most Dublin/Kildare private schools and the IRFU are closely connected as anybody who went to one will know and no other sport will get in its way. You can image the same posters in absolute uproar if irish language schools refused to allow their pupils play rugby and insist on GAA only yet publicly funded private schools get away with it.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 1:54 PM

    Of course, the game should go ahead at Páirc Uí Chaoimh but i notice a lot of posters familiar from rugby articles having a go at the GAA for been backward. I think they should look closer to home as the IRFU ( I’m Rich F.. you) and the majority of their private schools network still in 2018 deny their students the opportunity to play GAA or Soccer.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 2:38 PM

    @Mike Kelly: can’t speak for the whole country but in munster most of the private schools play football. There’s the Lord Mayors Cup in cork for it. Plus it’d be up to the individual school as opposed to the IRFU to decide what they do and don’t play. I doubt if the IRFU are on the board of management in any post primary schools
    So I’m not sure where your info is coming from but it seems to be radically incorrect.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 3:13 PM

    @Jim Demps: Its comes from experience. I cant speak about Munster but in Dublin/Kildare its not radically incorrect with the notable exception of terenure college and 2 others. The most common excuse they give “our pitches aren’t big enough” .. Disgraceful in this day and age yet not a word about it and the massive state funding they receive. Still its not cool to criticize the “I’m Rich F..U only the GAA or FAI

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    Jul 27th 2018, 3:24 PM

    @Mike Kelly: I think you’re trying to muddy the waters. The GAA fully deserve the criticism they are getting over this situation. If you want to give out about the IRFU then work away but it doesn’t change the fact that the GAA are an embarrassment when it comes to the handling of the Liam Miller game.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 3:27 PM

    @Mike Kelly: plus back to your point, the criticism in those cases should be aimed at the schools unless you can show me where the IRFU have specifically told the school not to play another sport. There’s no rule in the IRFU rule book saying not to play different sports on rugby pitches.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 8:24 PM

    @Jim Demps: Jim I have never commented on any Journal discussion before but I feel compelled to do so now. I have waded through a fair bit of the comments on the Miller story and thank god that your level headed response to the situation shines out in the confusion. Keep up the good work.

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    Jul 28th 2018, 9:34 AM

    @Michael Jordan: thanks michael

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    Jul 28th 2018, 12:31 AM

    The GAA may have some stupid rules and as usual made a balls of the situation but maybe all these so called soccer fans got up of their ass on a Sunday and headed to the terraces of local soccer games instead of watching the Premiership on Sky tv the Fai just might have a stadium to host such an event

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    Jul 28th 2018, 10:12 AM

    GAA Neanderthals. NO decency.

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    Jul 28th 2018, 10:13 AM

    For frig sake.

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    Jul 27th 2018, 1:39 PM

    I hope they fill puc now!

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    Jul 28th 2018, 10:10 AM

    These GAA Neanderthals have covered themselves in glory yet again. The Porky keef. fiasco sees them being dragged screaming towards a position of basic human decency. But hey …. the rules is the rules.

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